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« Thread started on: Feb 12th, 2015, 12:14am »

I have an HR50+ 212 combo with the Soldano labeled x-12000 speakers. I am not unhappy with them, but have had the amp for many years and looking to experiment. The tubes are replaced with JJ6l6gc and I swap preamp tubes with random brands from time to time, but typically use the JJ in V1.

I typically just play at home, but recently started jamming with a drummer. We cover some VH, Kiss, Maiden, and I am a big Lynch fan as well so looking for that sound spectrum. I want punchy, maybe a little less "shrill".

What do you recommend and why? TIA!
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« Reply #1 on: Feb 12th, 2015, 12:09pm »

EVM 12L
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« Reply #2 on: Feb 12th, 2015, 2:20pm »

First you may want to read this https://nevismusic.wordpress.com/2014/09/07/my-trip-to-soldano-amps-and-before-you-plug-in-those-v30s-read-this/

A couple paragraphs in I talk about the impact of speaker choice with Soldano amps. Lots of topics on the forum too but basically try to take into account the fact that v30s and similar speakers weren't around when Soldano was designing his amp so they aren't voiced around them and might not be a good fit if you want a warmer sound. Warmer speakers like 1265s and green backs were.

My suggestion is to consider the Weber silver bell and legacy. Big low end, fat mids and soft highs, lots if texture. Other high powered greenbacks will work too (like cream backs and lynch backs) the Webers are just my choice. Cleaner flatter response speakers like Evms work well too.
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« Reply #3 on: Feb 17th, 2015, 2:01pm »

I bought my Decatone with a Marshall 1960A with 2 V30s and 2 T75s. That sounded pretty good IMO. Late last fall I snagged a Soldano 2x12 with 2 V1216s, and I think it sounds better still.
Recently I picked up a Gflex 2x12 with 12Ls in it, and have yet to try the Decatone on it, those 12Ls sound great with my 6505+ 112.
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« Reply #4 on: Feb 19th, 2015, 07:46am »

That's a very detailed writeup, nevis, and I fully agree that V30s are not the best match for Soldano amps.
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« Reply #5 on: Feb 19th, 2015, 1:14pm »

on Feb 19th, 2015, 07:46am, Wolfgang von Bockenheim wrote:
That's a very detailed writeup, nevis, and I fully agree that V30s are not the best match for Soldano amps.


thanks wolfgang!

it really can help to take into account what types of speakers were around when the amp was designed and the intention of the speakers that came after (the v30). it's not that soldano's are crazy bright, it's that v30s and similar speakers were built to fix a problem soldano amps don't have - sounding clear, modern, and aggressive.

in the 80s marshall and celestion got together to build two speakers that would be a departure from the traditional greenback types that were so prevalent in the guitar world. marshall wanted their amps to sound new and fresh and players wanted more gain and tightness from their amps and marshall sought to address the problem from speaker side of things. and so the v30 and gt1275 were created.

soldano's don't lack for tightness, gain, aggression or clarity. they fix the issues players had right there at the amp rather than the speaker. that's why they are such a landmark. if you play a soldano through any greenback style speaker, any relatively even toned speaker like a EV, and the amp will sound the way it's supposed to: warm but still clear, deep bass, punchy percussive mids. if you play with the gain over 5 you'll prob find yourself with the treble on 7 or so and the presence on at least 4 or 5.

another thing to keep in mind, in the soldano shop, in addition to their stock eminence speakers, they have several weber speakers around too. i was surprised to see the webers there because that's what i use and asked about them. mr. soldano said that they often get special orders for cabs/combos with webers. the guys at the shop said they really like the legacies and have used them in several custom order builds.
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 21st, 2015, 4:48pm »

A pair of 65's or EVM12L's would be my choice for that setup .
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« Reply #7 on: Mar 9th, 2015, 2:48pm »

Eminence Wizards! Amazing tonal range and bottom end to die for. Sounds sexier than my original 70's Celestion G12H30's.
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« Reply #8 on: Mar 9th, 2015, 8:26pm »

on Feb 12th, 2015, 12:09pm, 1999Hotrod50 wrote:
EVM 12L


Those speakers weigh ~ 20# each! They'll make the combo so heavy he won't be able to lift it. I've got Emi Legend V12 in my SLO 2x12 and they sound great.
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« Reply #9 on: Mar 10th, 2015, 12:55pm »

Larger magnets = better sound.
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« Reply #10 on: Mar 11th, 2015, 9:32pm »

on Mar 10th, 2015, 12:55pm, cps7553 wrote:
Larger magnets = better sound.


LOL! That must be why Peavey Black Widows are in such high demand, I guess....
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« Reply #11 on: May 21st, 2015, 10:50am »

I just did a comparison between a Mesa Recto Std 412 and a Marshall VM425A. Both slants and loaded with very similar speakers, there is a write up in the general gear talk area of this forum. The Mesa had 2 V30s and 2 G12H 30th Ann. The marshall had two WGS Vet 30 and Scumback H75/H55. Both setups (and cabs) sounded awesome with my decatone. I like to push the speaker into natural breakup more so than a lot of players who like a crystal clear speaker, so I lean towards lower power handling. having switched from 50 watt heads to the 100 watt Deca, I decided to marriage the V30/G12H speakers and man am I impressed with it. greenback style break up with just enough head room and cut for live playing.

My suggestion, try a speaker pairing to get a little more out of a cab that you may already like but want more of something.

And you guys are correct, Greenbacks (g12C in my case) sounded great with the Decatone!!! But so far every speaker I have tried has sounded great. even a Peavey Valveking 100 watt speaker in a 112 closed back. Sounded amazing and I thought that speaker was completely f****d
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