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« Thread started on: Apr 9th, 2010, 9:23pm »

last year i tried to order my 'dream guitar'. prs refused to make it, so i'm considering having it made. i was going to spend around 3k to have my 'dream guitar'. so far, i bought this prs mccarty IRW on the 'bay for $1750 shipped (probably close to 4k out the door new). since then, i've upgraded it to the adjustable prs stoptail ($200) and have gotoh 15:1 white oval button vintage tuners on the way ($50). that's 2k spent so far. my estimate to have the nickel-silver frets removed and replaced with stainless steel is $500. the estimate to have the body refinished in bright white nitro is $500. i also want a tune-o-matic with string-through-body similar to my carvin's. that's $3k spent (probably will turn into $3500 after pickups and electronics) for my 'dream guitar'. here's my sloppy ms paint rendition of how it'll look. do you think it's worth it? here's the before and after:


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i got my carvin ct4m last week and it came out beautiful. i'm keeping it and playing the heck out of it (who says you can only have one main guitar?). you can see the similarities of what i'm looking for:

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« Reply #1 on: Apr 10th, 2010, 01:03am »

explain why you want the modfications or specs specified? i like the colour, its like a dave navarro, the white works well on a prs.
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 10th, 2010, 10:46am »

first off, stainless steel frets blow nickel-silver frets out of the water, imho, in both feel and durability. the prs stoptail has never been a good design to me, either. string through guitars have much more sustain available. i'd like to upgrade the electronics to the rs guitarworks super-pots. the mccarty pickups do nothing for me; i prefer the dragon IIs, but will probably go with a seymour duncan alnico pro/jazz combo. oh, and i don't like the look of keystone tuners on anything but a gibson. all in all, the mccarty is pretty far from what i want. but the wide-fat neck in indian rosewood is killer!
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 10th, 2010, 12:11pm »

I'm not trying to patronize, but why are you buying an expensive PRS so that you can take it apart and totally rearrange it?

I really am serious. And I'm certainly not meaning to be offensive. smiley
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« Reply #4 on: Apr 10th, 2010, 1:34pm »

no offense taken. it's just that prs will not build my dream guitar, so the only other option is to have it built or go without.
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« Reply #5 on: Apr 10th, 2010, 1:39pm »

here's the backstory:
prs will make private stock guitars, starting at $5-7k. not even sure if they'll do stainless steel frets either. they won't use 'jet white' on anything other than the dave navarro signature model. they also quit making the custom 22 because they've changed everything in the factory for the new 25th anniversary models (new headstock logo, neck binding, narrowfield pickups, etc). after putting a 50% deposit down (which was $300 more than that carvin's out-the-door price) last september and being told it would take 3 months (for a vintage natural color, already not getting exactly what i want), waited until february and was then told they wouldn't or couldn't do it. i got my money back and ordered the carvin. since then, got the mccarty for a pretty good deal on the 'bay. even with the nickel silver frets polished, the carvin with stainless steel frets still blows it away when it comes to the feel of the strings on the frets. the carvin has way more sustain than the prs (and any 10+ pound les paul i've ever played).
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« Reply #6 on: Apr 10th, 2010, 2:13pm »

on Apr 10th, 2010, 10:46am, guccieng wrote:
first off, stainless steel frets blow nickel-silver frets out of the water, imho, in both feel and durability. the prs stoptail has never been a good design to me, either. string through guitars have much more sustain available. i'd like to upgrade the electronics to the rs guitarworks super-pots. the mccarty pickups do nothing for me; i prefer the dragon IIs, but will probably go with a seymour duncan alnico pro/jazz combo. oh, and i don't like the look of keystone tuners on anything but a gibson. all in all, the mccarty is pretty far from what i want. but the wide-fat neck in indian rosewood is killer!


frets: agree
Bridge: def agree
Pickups: agree!!!!!!!!!!! (go for BKP's tho)
Neck: yeah i use to be a thin neck shred head, but those wide fats def have something

i say go for it, its looks like its gona cost you less than a top of the line Cu24. only thing to consider is that you're murdering an early mcarty wink and it'll kill resale, but if it truly is you're dream guitar, then that won't matter

angry, for a PRS this wasnt a bad deal at all, in fact it was excellent, also there's just something about that shape, sometimes you just gotta have a certain shape for your guitar and nothing else comes close..

mabye stripping back some of that polyester and thinskinning it will improve the resonance?
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« Reply #7 on: Apr 10th, 2010, 2:38pm »

on Apr 10th, 2010, 1:34pm, guccieng wrote:
no offense taken. it's just that prs will not build my dream guitar, so the only other option is to have it built or go without.


So you want someone else to build the perfect guitar from scratch?

I had the idea in my head that you bought the PRS in the hope that you would send it off to a luthier (or do it yourself) and have it modified completely. Which, to me, seems silly. But that's just my opinion - and I don't mean that to detract from your plans.

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angry, for a PRS this wasnt a bad deal at all, in fact it was excellent, also there's just something about that shape, sometimes you just gotta have a certain shape for your guitar and nothing else comes close..

mabye stripping back some of that polyester and thinskinning it will improve the resonance?


That's fair enough. Maybe I'm just at a stage in my life where I don't really know what I want. Everyday my tastes change, so there is no perfect guitar. embarassed
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« Reply #8 on: Apr 10th, 2010, 2:48pm »

on Apr 10th, 2010, 2:38pm, AngryGoldfish wrote:
So you want someone else to build the perfect guitar from scratch?

I had the idea in my head that you bought the PRS in the hope that you would send it off to a luthier (or do it yourself) and have it modified completely. Which, to me, seems silly. But that's just my opinion - and I don't mean that to detract from your plans.



That's fair enough. Maybe I'm just at a stage in my life where I don't really know what I want. Everyday my tastes change, so there is no perfect guitar. embarassed


no no thats fair enough mate, thats why i have three guitars and counting, they all do different specific things, im not a fan of one particular kind of music or having a do it all guitar because i dont think one guitsr can.

my strat with texas specials is getting a hell of a lot of hendrixy/SRV play atm
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« Reply #9 on: Apr 10th, 2010, 3:01pm »

i'm not looking to have it done from scratch; it's modifying this one that i'm considering. as for 'murdering', yes it's been considered, too (along with the negative resale value). this isn't an 'early' mccarty; in fact, it's a 2005 20th anniversary (you can barely see the relief logo on the truss rod cover) that was bought new just last year. so there's some bareknuckle fans around here, huh?
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« Reply #10 on: Apr 10th, 2010, 3:04pm »

on Apr 10th, 2010, 3:01pm, guccieng wrote:
i'm not looking to have it done from scratch; it's modifying this one that i'm considering. as for 'murdering', yes it's been considered, too (along with the negative resale value). this isn't an 'early' mccarty; in fact, it's a 2005 20th anniversary (you can barely see the relief logo on the truss rod cover) that was bought new just last year. so there's some bareknuckle fans around here, huh?


i say murdering tongue in cheek smiley

ah well if its a 2005 go for it, and yup, i am a BKP fan, got a set in my mcarty oddly enough
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on Apr 10th, 2010, 2:48pm, tekbow wrote:
no no thats fair enough mate, thats why i have three guitars and counting, they all do different specific things, im not a fan of one particular kind of music or having a do it all guitar because i dont think one guitsr can.

my strat with texas specials is getting a hell of a lot of hendrixy/SRV play atm


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on Apr 10th, 2010, 3:01pm, guccieng wrote:
i'm not looking to have it done from scratch; it's modifying this one that i'm considering. as for 'murdering', yes it's been considered, too (along with the negative resale value). this isn't an 'early' mccarty; in fact, it's a 2005 20th anniversary (you can barely see the relief logo on the truss rod cover) that was bought new just last year. so there's some bareknuckle fans around here, huh?


Bareknuckles are indeed awesome.
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« Reply #12 on: Apr 13th, 2010, 6:08pm »

I'm sure you know... but there are lots of actual guitar builders out there. Could build you what ever you want.

She looks good as is.

Those mods will ruin any resale should that day come. A custom build will hold.

I'm always messin whith stuff too. Ruined plenty of guitars and amps.

My 2 cents, look long and hard at custom luthers.
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« Reply #13 on: Apr 18th, 2010, 8:48pm »

Cool concept. I would say leave well enough alone, though- that's a lot of cash up on top- if she doesn't end up sounding like you hope though- esp. after 500 dollar X 2 or 3 modifications- that would be very disappointing.

I set up a guitar for slide once- thought I would never sell it. Fast forward 7 years and it is gone- original nut was trashed so needed to get new one. See a lot of custom.one-off guitars for sale on ebay and forums- it's sad.
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« Reply #14 on: Apr 18th, 2010, 9:25pm »

i hear ya. i value the feel of the guitar over the sound; the sound i can change, but the feel is what it is, and it's gonna take money to get it. i'm still undecided, but the cheesy ms paint up there still makes my mouth water... oh yeah, imagine indian rosewood pickup rings, knobs and switch tip...
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