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xx Cable Question for JLB
« Thread started on: Jan 21st, 2010, 11:32am »

The reason I'm directing this question to JLB is that I noticed that he is a fan of cable upgrades for the Soldano 44.

My question is this - is the Monster Powerline 300 power cable actually worth the absurd money? I noticed that one was supplied for the Premier Guitar review. I can almost see where the shielding would be worthwhile on the 200, but the astronomical cost of the 300 has me skeptical and wondering.

Also wondering if the Monster Studio 1000 speaker cables are so good as to be worth the money?

Responses welcome from anyone who may have hands on experience with these cables.
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xx Re: Cable Question for JLB
« Reply #1 on: Jan 21st, 2010, 6:27pm »

I'm calling bullfeathers on Monster pricing.

I use Klotz cables which are exensive but not priced into the stratosphere.
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 21st, 2010, 6:30pm »

I can't answer your question from any experience. But it seem funny to me that when you think about the miles of power lines that get the power to your location, all the wiring in your house or club including the entrance cable, breaker box, long wire runs, a power conditioner for your valuable gear, that the last 5 feet is gonna make any difference.

Again just an opion, never tried any thing but the cord that comes with the amp.
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« Reply #3 on: Feb 10th, 2010, 3:52pm »

Gtr,

I leave the MPL 300 in the studio full time now. It is just TOO heavy and almost falls out of the female receptacle on the amp. I now only use MPL 200's since that same size cord is used on my Monster Cable Studio Pro 1000 conditioner. I'm quite happy with them and they stay nice and tight in the back of the amp like it should. My SLO has a female receptacle on it and it works great with it too. The 200's are 1/2 the price of the 300's.

Ok, here is the rub on power cords. Crummy amps that are weak to start with may need right at 117 volts AC to make them work perfectly. Well, let's just say work like they were designed to even though they may not be very good sounding. Mike told me years ago his amps could handle 100 - 140 volts and run great for a while, but not forever unless regulated back towards 117. His equipment can handle high or low voltages. My own home, a remote horse farm in west Tennessee has 126.7 volts on average. It needs to be that way at the meter since I have 400' underground to the house. By the time it gets there, it is 3% less.

I had TWO, not ONE, but TWO Peavey XXX's catch on FIRE in my home years ago. Worthless things couldn't handle higher voltage. I mean active flames, not just smoke.

With all this in mind, a good power cord will never get mixed up as who's is who's at the end of the night, and it is normally about 8' versus 18 gauge 6 footers, and heavy duty enough to push all the current from the wall to your amp.

That's the skinny on power cords. Guitar cables are a different cat. Yes, I can and see differences in the studio all the time with good and bad ones. Every track we record uses Solid Cables DAU's exclusively. Sure other good ones out there, but Nial is just hard to beat. He makes all the custom 44 cables and is doing work with 65 Amps now as well.

Hope this helps.

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xx Re: Cable Question for JLB
« Reply #4 on: Feb 11th, 2010, 07:36am »

Hmm, by your reasoning that Peavey's would've caught fire even earlier as they would have had an even higher voltage...

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« Reply #5 on: Feb 14th, 2010, 10:35am »

Thanks JLB. Interesting about the Peaveys catching fire - never heard of that. Theoretically, I would think lower voltage would actually be worse for an amp as it would then attempt to draw more current (amps) to compensate. Higher voltage would in turn draw less current. I guess this is a case where theory goes out the window in a real world application.

400'? Thats a helluva run - I'm surprised that you are only dropping 3%.
You don't happen to have a 3-phase hi-leg delta service, do you? That used to be quite common in rural farming areas.
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 16th, 2010, 04:50am »

on Jan 21st, 2010, 6:30pm, hellboy wrote:
I can't answer your question from any experience. But it seem funny to me that when you think about the miles of power lines that get the power to your location, all the wiring in your house or club including the entrance cable, breaker box, long wire runs, a power conditioner for your valuable gear, that the last 5 feet is gonna make any difference.

Again just an opion, never tried any thing but the cord that comes with the amp.



This has been debated on other forums forever. I agree that it is ridiculous to think that after all the subpar city/county wiring that what is coming out of the wall is gonna be enhanced by some boutique power cord. And we have tested it ourselves and no difference.

But a power regulator is another story...
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xx Re: Cable Question for JLB
« Reply #7 on: Feb 18th, 2010, 11:50am »

i am in the camp that power cable is neglible, but that power conditioning is critical.

speaker cable is critical, but the most important factor is gauge.

i only use 12 guage speaker cable from amp to cab
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