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« Reply #8 on: Nov 2nd, 2004, 9:35pm »

68 Marshall 4x12 with G12H30 and Vintage 30s

BIG tone monster.

I have a 79 Marshall 4x12 too and it is real close to the 68. The newer Marshall cabs for me just don't get it ..... like the last 10 years worth.
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 7:38pm »

on Nov 2nd, 2004, 3:21pm, Rogue wrote:
would you say the soldano cabinet wasn't as bright or trebly as a cab with the V30s? Would you describe it as more mids or more bass?

The 5150 sounded a bit fuller, but had this raspiness (term used by bstark and I think it applies). It was also a bit darker sounding.

I personally don't like the 5150 cab either. I too hear the raspiness and also find it a little sterile.

To my ear the stock Eminence vs the V30.... the Eminence is smoother. The V30 has more "upper mid", simillar bass and a completely difference treble response. The V30 is more immediate ( probably the mids).

I would say the highs/treble on the Eminence speaker are not as bright as the V30. But both have equal treble if that makes any sense at all.

I believe the Eminence speaker is 97db sensitivity vs 100db with the V30. Meaning the perceived and real volume is less. The Eminence speaker is not as fatiguing to listen to as the V30 but also not nearly as detailed either.

I pretty much play humbucker guitars only. So all my opinions might be completely wrong with single coils.
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 7:40pm »

on Nov 2nd, 2004, 9:35pm, TheBigScaryAmp wrote:
68 Marshall 4x12 with G12H30 and Vintage 30s


Would love to hear that !!!

I played my Avenger through a early 70s Marshall 4x12 with greenbacks and was amazed. I generally don't like greenbacks.. can't imagine how good it would sound with the G12H+V30 combo.
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 7:41pm »

on Nov 2nd, 2004, 9:23pm, SuperReverb2 wrote:
All three of the Soldano amps I've auditioned (SLO 100, Decatone, and Hot Rod 50) have been played through the same stock Soldano 4 x 12 slant cabinet loaded with Eminence Legend 30's.


How would you compare the HR50 to the SLO ?
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 8:41pm »

bluefish:

See my thread entitled: Played an SLO 100, a Decatone and a Hot Rod 50.

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« Reply #13 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 10:39pm »

What about the G12H30/G12 75s x pattern? I have been hearing a lot about that combo!
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 4th, 2004, 07:43am »

I have an Avatar w/Eminence V12-Legends that I use with my Hot Rod 50.
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« Reply #15 on: Nov 4th, 2004, 09:08am »

What I meant to say above was G12T75s! wink
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« Reply #16 on: Nov 4th, 2004, 3:54pm »

on Oct 31st, 2004, 11:10am, bluefish wrote:
At band practice last night I ran my Avenger through a Bad Cat 2x12 ( G12H + V30) . Wow !! Big big improvement over the Soldano 2x12 with the Eminence speakers.

I am trying to figure out if I try swapping the speakers in the Soldano cabinet for V30s or just try something new ?

What's everyone using ?


I'm using the Soldano semi-open 2x12 with one Celestion V30 and one Celestion G12T-75. It sounds pretty killer.

When I went to pick up the amp at the store where I ordered it new, I tried it on several cabs. I noticed it was sounding better on the Marshall cabs than the Soldano cabs, until I plugged into a Soldano cab with V30's like the Marshall cabs. Instantly sounded the best... I think the key, for my ear at least, is that the Eminence Legend speakers really blow... they sound really cold and sterile to my ears, especially against the celestions.

My plans are to pick up a Soldano 4x12 with Celestions in an x-config, sometime, whenever I see a decent deal. I'll keep the 2x12, too; I'd like to have them both for different applications (different types of rooms etc).
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« Reply #17 on: Nov 22nd, 2004, 11:13am »

For my Deca I'm using an Earcandy Buzzbomb 2X12 loaded with two Reverend Alltone 1250 speakers. I did a post on the pics page. One of a kind, unless sombody replicates it on their own...
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« Reply #18 on: Nov 22nd, 2004, 5:14pm »

I'm using a Custom Audio Amplifiers 1x12 cab loeaded with an Eminence Cannabis Rex. cool
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« Reply #19 on: Nov 24th, 2004, 04:47am »

I just picked up a Avatar cab with Vintage 30s ...... sounds killer for a 2x12.

It was like only $303 shipped. shocked
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« Reply #20 on: Nov 24th, 2004, 5:36pm »

I'm just gonna paste in my post from harmonycentral about speakers in case it helps....

I am running a Soldano Astroverb into an Avatar 2x12 with a V30 and a G12H30.
I have played and recorded each speaker individually to hear how they compare to each other.

- G12H30 is smooth with plenty of bass and lots of presence.
- V30 is compressed, has TONS of mids, lacks some bass and lacks high presence.
It has a bit of a gritty raspyness that makes power chords grind, but puts buzz in your lead tone if used alone.

The G12H30 sounds louder than the V30- perhaps because of its higher presence output?
It is not a real subtle difference either, the G12H30 is definitely louder than the V30.

I think this perceived volume difference is why the smooth high frequencies of the G12H30 overpower and hide the raspyness of the V30 resulting in a nice smooth lead tone.

But you do still hear the V30's rasp for chords and its additional mids- which go missing with an all G12H30 setup.

The V30 sounds very compressed, like it's under a blanket, but live players say it cuts well in a live situation because of it's mids. I don't know firsthand because I've never been in the audience while I was playing on stage!

I consider the distortion sound of the G12H30 "natural" and the V30 "congested".

I really prefer the G12H30. The V30 is so compressed it sounds like the Marshall channel of my Johnson J Station.

After recording each of the speakers separately I thought that I dont like the V30, but I found out that the G12H30 DOES need to be complimented by the V30 to get that "holy grail" perfect sound- it needs the V30's midrange and grit for high gain chords or "that sound" is just not there.

I would call the clean tone of the G12H30 "warm" and the V30 just "slightly sterile", in comparison, but it's really not that bad.

While the V30 has more midrange than other speakers, I really think the biggest difference from other speakers is that it has MUCH LESS presence.

My comparisons were done at a high bedroom volume- and so is the majority of my playing.


So I would be kind of surprised if there is any better speaker combination than V30 + G12H30 because they compliment each other perfectly.

The G12H30 gives you smoothness and the presence and bass that the V30 lacks and
the V30 gives you a little grit for chords, yet its gritty lead tone is covered by the G12H30's smooth lead tone due to having more presence than the V30.

I would also recommend Weber beam blockers for for all of them, but that may just be my personal taste.
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« Reply #21 on: Nov 25th, 2004, 09:47am »

I use a variety of cabs (Voodoo & Bogner 4x12's, Bogner 2x12, and 2 Bogner cubes). Right now the HR50 is running through the cubes and it sounds fantastic IMHO.
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« Reply #22 on: Nov 25th, 2004, 09:48am »

on Nov 22nd, 2004, 5:14pm, proudmore wrote:
I'm using a Custom Audio Amplifiers 1x12 cab loeaded with an Eminence Cannabis Rex. cool
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Arent those essentially the same thing as the Bogner cubes? That what I thought I heard.
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