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« Thread started on: Oct 31st, 2004, 11:10am »

At band practice last night I ran my Avenger through a Bad Cat 2x12 ( G12H + V30) . Wow !! Big big improvement over the Soldano 2x12 with the Eminence speakers.

I am trying to figure out if I try swapping the speakers in the Soldano cabinet for V30s or just try something new ?

What's everyone using ?
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« Reply #1 on: Oct 31st, 2004, 9:01pm »

I did a search on the site and came up with this thread.

http://soldano.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1076530069

Maybe that will help out. I'd like to see a discussion on cabinets and speakers as well. I have a 5150 cab and a Carvin Legacy cab. I have grown to like the Legacy cab much better. It is loaded with V30 modeled speakers.

I'm wanting to get another speaker cab. I'm sort of leaning towards a soldano cab, but I'm really not sure.

I'd like to hear others opinions on it. What's the difference, tonally, in a cab loaded with V30s and the Soldano cabs?

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« Reply #2 on: Oct 31st, 2004, 9:46pm »

I have been using two Genz Benz G-Flex cabs both loaded with a combo of one Celestion 75 and a Celestion vintage 30. With the ports on the cabs it sounds huge and mean!

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« Reply #3 on: Nov 1st, 2004, 8:27pm »

Thanks for the link.

I swapped the speakers in my Soldano cabinet with a G12H+V30 as I am famillar with that combination. Big difference. I will keep the cabinet.

To my ear with the speaker swap it is more detailed, tighter and agressive. Sounds like someone took the blanket off. It is also feels about 10lbs heavier which might be the only bad thing !!

On the plus side I believe the Eminence speakers are better with brighter guitars or amps.

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« Reply #4 on: Nov 2nd, 2004, 07:21am »

I've got a Marshall 1960A and a Johnson 4x12 (angled), both loaded with V30's, but I think the Johnson (made by Digitech for their Millennium series modeling amps) sounds much better. It's a lot like a Soldano 4x12. It's front loaded with a sealed rear, and it's a little smaller than a Marshall. When pushed hard, the bottom end on the Johnson is a little tighter than the Marshall. It doesn't get so flabby when I'm playing D-tuned or baritone. The mids and low-mids cut through better, and yet they're easier on the ears. Digitech discontinued the Johnson line, but occasionally you can find these cabinets (loaded with V30's) for about the same price you would pay for a quad of V30's
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 2nd, 2004, 09:30am »

I use two oversized straight front boogie cabs. When I first got the cabs, they were a little stiff, but they sound way better now. At high performance volumes the handle everything the SLO can throw at them. Great punch and prescence in the mix.
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 2nd, 2004, 3:21pm »

Bluefish, would you say the soldano cabinet wasn't as bright or trebly as a cab with the V30s? Would you describe it as more mids or more bass?

I only have two comparisons and that is between the Carvin Legacy and the 5150 cabs. The 5150 sounded a bit fuller, but had this raspiness (term used by bstark and I think it applies). It was also a bit darker sounding. I've gotten to where I just don't like it.


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« Reply #7 on: Nov 2nd, 2004, 9:23pm »

All three of the Soldano amps I've auditioned (SLO 100, Decatone, and Hot Rod 50) have been played through the same stock Soldano 4 x 12 slant cabinet loaded with Eminence Legend 30's. The only other cabinet available in the sound room (that wasn't being used) was a Mesa Boogie (slant) 4 x 12 loaded with Vintage 30's. I'm not sure if this was a "bad" cabinet, (maybe that's why nobody else was using it, ha ha) but he SLO 100 sounded like dog poo through this particular 4 x 12. I didn't bother trying the other two amps through it. I actually quite liked the stock cabinet with all three amps.

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« Reply #8 on: Nov 2nd, 2004, 9:35pm »

68 Marshall 4x12 with G12H30 and Vintage 30s

BIG tone monster.

I have a 79 Marshall 4x12 too and it is real close to the 68. The newer Marshall cabs for me just don't get it ..... like the last 10 years worth.
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 7:38pm »

on Nov 2nd, 2004, 3:21pm, Rogue wrote:
would you say the soldano cabinet wasn't as bright or trebly as a cab with the V30s? Would you describe it as more mids or more bass?

The 5150 sounded a bit fuller, but had this raspiness (term used by bstark and I think it applies). It was also a bit darker sounding.

I personally don't like the 5150 cab either. I too hear the raspiness and also find it a little sterile.

To my ear the stock Eminence vs the V30.... the Eminence is smoother. The V30 has more "upper mid", simillar bass and a completely difference treble response. The V30 is more immediate ( probably the mids).

I would say the highs/treble on the Eminence speaker are not as bright as the V30. But both have equal treble if that makes any sense at all.

I believe the Eminence speaker is 97db sensitivity vs 100db with the V30. Meaning the perceived and real volume is less. The Eminence speaker is not as fatiguing to listen to as the V30 but also not nearly as detailed either.

I pretty much play humbucker guitars only. So all my opinions might be completely wrong with single coils.
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 7:40pm »

on Nov 2nd, 2004, 9:35pm, TheBigScaryAmp wrote:
68 Marshall 4x12 with G12H30 and Vintage 30s


Would love to hear that !!!

I played my Avenger through a early 70s Marshall 4x12 with greenbacks and was amazed. I generally don't like greenbacks.. can't imagine how good it would sound with the G12H+V30 combo.
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 7:41pm »

on Nov 2nd, 2004, 9:23pm, SuperReverb2 wrote:
All three of the Soldano amps I've auditioned (SLO 100, Decatone, and Hot Rod 50) have been played through the same stock Soldano 4 x 12 slant cabinet loaded with Eminence Legend 30's.


How would you compare the HR50 to the SLO ?
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 8:41pm »

bluefish:

See my thread entitled: Played an SLO 100, a Decatone and a Hot Rod 50.

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« Reply #13 on: Nov 3rd, 2004, 10:39pm »

What about the G12H30/G12 75s x pattern? I have been hearing a lot about that combo!
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 4th, 2004, 07:43am »

I have an Avatar w/Eminence V12-Legends that I use with my Hot Rod 50.
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